Post by Indilwen on Jun 9, 2012 16:47:40 GMT 12
Source: www.disclose.tv/forum/medieval-sky-ships-t73474.html
"A Christmas Ship Portent Sailed the Sky!"
In A.D. 1211 Gervase of Tilbury (1155 -1234) an English chronicler of historical events and curiosities, recorded this bizarre story. Here is a translation of Tilbury’s account from the "Otio Imperialia":
Version 1.
“A strange event in our own times, which is widely known but none the less a cause of wonder, provides proof of the existence of an upper sea overhead. It occurred on a feast day in Britain, while the people were struggling out of their parish church after hearing high mass. The day was very overcast and quite dark on account of the thick clouds. To the people’s amazement, a ship’s anchor was seen caught on a tombstone within the churchyard walls, with its rope stretching up and hanging in the air. They were advancing various opinions on the matter to each other, when after a time they saw the rope move as if it were being worked to pull up the anchor. Since, being caught fast, it would not give way, a sound was heard in the humid air as of sailors struggling to recover the anchor they had cast down.
Soon, when their efforts proved vain, the sailors sent one of their number down; using the same technique as our sailors here below, he gripped the anchor-rope and climbed down it, swinging one hand over the other. He had already pulled the anchor free, when he was seized by the bystanders. He then expired in the hands of his captors, suffocated by the humidity of our dense air as if he were drowning at sea. The sailors up above wasted an hour, but then, concluding that their companion had drowned, they cut the rope and sailed away, leaving the anchor behind. And so in memory of this event it was fittingly decided that that anchor should be used to make ironwork for the church door, and it is still there for all to see.”
"An English King points to a UFO or comet."
Firstly, this story is of interest because of its age, being written up in medieval times and secondly, because of the chronicler, Gervase of Tilbury. Thirdly, because it appears to be ‘a close encounter of the third kind’. Some research reveals the possible origin of the story may be from Ireland.
Version 2.
“The annals say: when the monks of Clonmacnoise
Were all at prayers inside the oratory
A ship appeared above them in the air.
The anchor dragged along behind so deep
It hooked itself into the altar rails
And then, as the big hull rocked to a standstill,
A crewman shinned and grappled down the rope
And struggled to release it. But in vain.
This man can’t bear our life here and will drown,
The abbot said,unless we help him, So
They did, the freed ship sailed, and the man climbed back
Out of the marvellous as he had known it.”
"Otio Imperialia."
The time may be the Feast day of St. Kieran (516 – 546), nevertheless, it’s well chronicled, with some interesting facets. If witnessed by the Monks of Clonmacnoise, then we would have ‘credible’ witnesses to an UFO event, since they would all be educated, with the ability to read and write. They describe the vehicle as a ‘Ship’, in reality it could have any shape – the only object that this people would understand, that could ‘sail’ through the sky, would be a ship! They would certainly not have words for ‘aircraft’ or any of our modern descriptions that we could apply to such a craft. Logically, then any ‘man’ from that ship would be a sailor.
That’s another point of interest, they say ‘man’ because they would have no word for ‘Humanoid’ , also interesting, is that these men of God, did not start shouting about ‘Demon’s’ or Devil spirits, they accepted that it was a ‘man’.
In version 1, the crewman, overcome by breathing in our air, expires and dies, that’s really interesting, in that how did the medieval mind, encompass an ‘alien’ who could not breath our air? After all, demons, spirits etc. sent from Hell to tempt man, they had no trouble with our air apparently! Where did that idea come from? Unless, they (the Monks) actually witnessed it.
There’s no real description of the ship, apart from that’s what it was described as, and that it ‘sails’ through the air.
If we take this story at face value (for discussion sake) then we have the possibly of three very interesting facts:
1. Physical evidence of a ‘ET’, in that the mortal remains of the ‘crewman’ may be buried in the local area, after all, I’m pretty sure that these men of God would have given the ‘man’ a decent Christian burial.
2. More physical evidence with the remains of the ‘anchor’ (which in fact, could have been some kind of probe, which accidently attached itself to the Church furniture) known apparently to have been incorporated in the Church (Abbey?) doors.
3. In version 2, how did the Abbot know the ‘man’ would die in our atmosphere? Had he previous dealings with such creatures? Hence, the Monks reaction to the visitors – no panic, no screaming about Devils or such. In fact they helped free the ship and save the ‘man’ – had the poor creature appeared in later centuries, he may have had an invitation to party with those son’s of fun: The Inquisition.
This allows a little conjecture here, Did our medieval ancestors know more than they committed to paper about people from the ‘sky’ and if so, are there more visits recorded by our ancestors?
This is just a little taste because surprisingly enough, there were other visits recorded in our not so dark past!
Sources and further reading:
1. en.wikisource.org/wiki/Gervase_of_Tilbury_(DNB00)
2. mysteriousuniverse.org/2011/09/anchors-aweigh-sky-ships-and-storm-wizards/
3. www.alien-ufos.com/ufo-alien-discussions/18088-borough-cloera-help-needed.html
4. www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=298
5. fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gervais_de_Tilbury Note: This is in French.
6. science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/ufo-history2.htm
7. suite101.com/article/royal-christmas-gift-giving-and-feasting-in-thethirteenth
Read more: www.disclose.tv/forum/medieval-sky-ships-t73474.html#ixzz1xGfNURYI
"A Christmas Ship Portent Sailed the Sky!"
In A.D. 1211 Gervase of Tilbury (1155 -1234) an English chronicler of historical events and curiosities, recorded this bizarre story. Here is a translation of Tilbury’s account from the "Otio Imperialia":
Version 1.
“A strange event in our own times, which is widely known but none the less a cause of wonder, provides proof of the existence of an upper sea overhead. It occurred on a feast day in Britain, while the people were struggling out of their parish church after hearing high mass. The day was very overcast and quite dark on account of the thick clouds. To the people’s amazement, a ship’s anchor was seen caught on a tombstone within the churchyard walls, with its rope stretching up and hanging in the air. They were advancing various opinions on the matter to each other, when after a time they saw the rope move as if it were being worked to pull up the anchor. Since, being caught fast, it would not give way, a sound was heard in the humid air as of sailors struggling to recover the anchor they had cast down.
Soon, when their efforts proved vain, the sailors sent one of their number down; using the same technique as our sailors here below, he gripped the anchor-rope and climbed down it, swinging one hand over the other. He had already pulled the anchor free, when he was seized by the bystanders. He then expired in the hands of his captors, suffocated by the humidity of our dense air as if he were drowning at sea. The sailors up above wasted an hour, but then, concluding that their companion had drowned, they cut the rope and sailed away, leaving the anchor behind. And so in memory of this event it was fittingly decided that that anchor should be used to make ironwork for the church door, and it is still there for all to see.”
"An English King points to a UFO or comet."
Firstly, this story is of interest because of its age, being written up in medieval times and secondly, because of the chronicler, Gervase of Tilbury. Thirdly, because it appears to be ‘a close encounter of the third kind’. Some research reveals the possible origin of the story may be from Ireland.
Version 2.
“The annals say: when the monks of Clonmacnoise
Were all at prayers inside the oratory
A ship appeared above them in the air.
The anchor dragged along behind so deep
It hooked itself into the altar rails
And then, as the big hull rocked to a standstill,
A crewman shinned and grappled down the rope
And struggled to release it. But in vain.
This man can’t bear our life here and will drown,
The abbot said,unless we help him, So
They did, the freed ship sailed, and the man climbed back
Out of the marvellous as he had known it.”
"Otio Imperialia."
The time may be the Feast day of St. Kieran (516 – 546), nevertheless, it’s well chronicled, with some interesting facets. If witnessed by the Monks of Clonmacnoise, then we would have ‘credible’ witnesses to an UFO event, since they would all be educated, with the ability to read and write. They describe the vehicle as a ‘Ship’, in reality it could have any shape – the only object that this people would understand, that could ‘sail’ through the sky, would be a ship! They would certainly not have words for ‘aircraft’ or any of our modern descriptions that we could apply to such a craft. Logically, then any ‘man’ from that ship would be a sailor.
That’s another point of interest, they say ‘man’ because they would have no word for ‘Humanoid’ , also interesting, is that these men of God, did not start shouting about ‘Demon’s’ or Devil spirits, they accepted that it was a ‘man’.
In version 1, the crewman, overcome by breathing in our air, expires and dies, that’s really interesting, in that how did the medieval mind, encompass an ‘alien’ who could not breath our air? After all, demons, spirits etc. sent from Hell to tempt man, they had no trouble with our air apparently! Where did that idea come from? Unless, they (the Monks) actually witnessed it.
There’s no real description of the ship, apart from that’s what it was described as, and that it ‘sails’ through the air.
If we take this story at face value (for discussion sake) then we have the possibly of three very interesting facts:
1. Physical evidence of a ‘ET’, in that the mortal remains of the ‘crewman’ may be buried in the local area, after all, I’m pretty sure that these men of God would have given the ‘man’ a decent Christian burial.
2. More physical evidence with the remains of the ‘anchor’ (which in fact, could have been some kind of probe, which accidently attached itself to the Church furniture) known apparently to have been incorporated in the Church (Abbey?) doors.
3. In version 2, how did the Abbot know the ‘man’ would die in our atmosphere? Had he previous dealings with such creatures? Hence, the Monks reaction to the visitors – no panic, no screaming about Devils or such. In fact they helped free the ship and save the ‘man’ – had the poor creature appeared in later centuries, he may have had an invitation to party with those son’s of fun: The Inquisition.
This allows a little conjecture here, Did our medieval ancestors know more than they committed to paper about people from the ‘sky’ and if so, are there more visits recorded by our ancestors?
This is just a little taste because surprisingly enough, there were other visits recorded in our not so dark past!
Sources and further reading:
1. en.wikisource.org/wiki/Gervase_of_Tilbury_(DNB00)
2. mysteriousuniverse.org/2011/09/anchors-aweigh-sky-ships-and-storm-wizards/
3. www.alien-ufos.com/ufo-alien-discussions/18088-borough-cloera-help-needed.html
4. www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=298
5. fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gervais_de_Tilbury Note: This is in French.
6. science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/ufo-history2.htm
7. suite101.com/article/royal-christmas-gift-giving-and-feasting-in-thethirteenth
Read more: www.disclose.tv/forum/medieval-sky-ships-t73474.html#ixzz1xGfNURYI
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